Connecticut Custom Airguns
  • Welcome!
  • Hector's Airgun Blog
  • Products and Products Blog
    • One-Off's
    • The "Héctors Special'" scope by Sightron
    • K1050i FT
    • The Hex Louver or "Secret Sunshade"
    • Pellet Path Calculator >
      • Questions, Answers and Comments on P-P Calc
      • Privacy Policy for PP-Calc
    • The Nautilus SideWheel
    • The X-10 TiltMeter
  • Zimmer-Silhouetten
    • Results 2017-2018
    • Results 2016-2017
    • Results 2015-2016
    • Results 2014-2015
    • Results 2013-2014
  • References and Links
  • Contact us
  • Store

Hector's Airgun Blog

Where we discuss, CIVIILY,  anything airgun.

Return Home

How to understand Rifle Scopes

1/16/2015

13 Comments

 
Scopes are complicated, but let's try to simplify them without "dumbing them down":

This is a diagram of the OPTICS inside a simple scope. Fixed magnification, no parallax adjustment:
Picture
In this first image, to the left is the target, the rays of reflected light bounce from the target and enter the Objective lens. This lens (a doublet in the illustration because it is made of two "nesting" lenses) focuses the image onto the First Focal Plane. But it is an INVERTED image.

So, the image then impinges into the "Erecting optics", these turn the image right side up, again using a set of doublets.

Now that the image is right side up, this manufacturer chose to "inject" the reticle image at this point, making this scope a SECOND Focal Plane scope.

In order to provide crispness to the image, scope manufacturers insert a "stop" (a metal plate with a hole) at this point. This reduces the stray light bouncing around the internals of the scope and allows the eye to perceive a "crisp" sight picture. It does not diminish light throughput because the image is already a reduced one and it already includes the reticle.

Now the image goes into the Ocular assembly that is a system of a singlet and a doublet. The focal distances of these lenses are long and therefore there is not enough distance to invert the image, it just gets magnified. The magnification is given by the distance BETWEEN the singlet and the doublet. Longer distance, less magnification; shorter distance, more magnification. In a fixed mag scope like the one in the figure the magnification is set at the factory and it cannot be changed without disassemblying the scope.
Higher magnifications also mean reduced eye relief. Dis-assembly of the scope and readjustment of the distance between the ocular elements allows for increased magnification at the cost of reducing eye relief.

This is housed inside a mechanical housing that has its own complications, again a simple scope, but this one an old Zeiss with a FIRST Focal Plane reticle:
Picture
In this illustration the target is to the RIGHT. The image of the target and the reticle coincide onto the FFP, and that gets inverted.
You will note that now we have a screw that puts downward force against a leaf spring we cannot see on the other side of the "picture reversal assembly", also known as the Erector Assembly. You will also note that the Erector (or Picture Reversal) assembly is held in pivots at the junction of the scope's tube and the ocular tube; where the Second Focal Plane Aperture (Stop) is located.
By TILTING the lenses, the image moves and with it, the reticle. Thereby moving the POA relative to the axis of the Scope's external body.

Of course all we see is the externals:

Picture
Now, when we have a variable mag scope we get another set of mechanics inside the scope, to be more precise, inside the Scope Tube, connected to the Ocular/Eyepiece tube, this set is, USUALLY, something like this:

Picture
What you see here is the "barrel" (piece #9) that gets locked into the Zoom Collar (piece #3) and that because it has two slots (9a and 9b) that have a different "pitch" where the pegs (pieces 12A and 12B) that support the two lenses in the Ocular system, now can get closer to each other, or get separated with the turn of the collar, change the magnification. This is the zoom unit. But keep in mind that this mechanism is not dissimilar to the paralax adjustment system when using a sidewhell.

So, having laid down a "language" with which we can try to understand the whole mess, let's dive into it.

Those of us that have used the old style "pirate spyglass", know that you bring your subject to focus by changing the length of the scope.
Picture
Well, riflescopes are not different. To bring the object into focus you need to change the length of your scope. But a rifle scope has no "telescoping barrels", so how do we do it?

One way is to move the Objective lens assembly. Like the old Benchrest scopes where the WHOLE assembly moved:
Picture
That posed problems for waterproofing, and so the manufacturers turned the whole moveable thing into a sealed unit, like the Vortex optics one:
Picture
Some manufacturers, like Leupold (in their EFR models) and Sightron (in their BigSky II) have even gone to the trouble of making the AO a barrel within a barrel assembly, whereby you turn on a ring that is sealed; that ring, in its turn, turns a sleeve that holds the lenses in an assembly similar to the Zoom barrel with pegs holding the lenses and those pegs riding on pitched slots.

Many years ago, John Unertl made a scope he called "the Programmer", because the pitch of the slots was made in such a way that uniform rotations yielded uniform focus distance changes. Alas there was no FT way back then and the feature had no value for the shooters. So it was dropped as it was expensive to incorporate. Nowadays Unertls can fetch upwards of $800 and Programmers in particular are so scarce that no collector is letting anyone shoot his, or releasing one into the real world.

Now, ¿WHY do the slot in the Programmer had to be SO COMPLICATED?

The answer lies in this graph:

Picture
This is the inverse graph, the one that relates the distance of movement of the lens to the change in distance of objects in focus.

Forget the bottom left quadrant and focus (pun intended) on the top right quadrant. Think that the horizontal axis is the distance to the object you want to focus, and that on the vertical plane you have the position that the Objective lens has to be at relative to some reference in the scope, to focus at that distance. Let's just think of the vertical axis as being in mm's and the horizontal axis being in "Chains" (twenty meters approx):

If you change the objective lens position from 5.0 to 2.0. you have now changed your focus from objects that were in position 0.2 Chains to position 0.5 Chains; a movement of 0.3 Chains  on the distance scale needed a movement of 3 units on the objective lens position. Or, in other words, when an object moves from being 4 meters (0.2 Chains) to being 10 meters (0.5 Chains) away, you need to move the objective 3 mm's. 
If you now want to focus on objects that are now in position 1 (20 meters), you now move the objective lens from position 2.0 to position 1.0, PLEASE note that 1 mm's of Objective lens movement has moved the focus point 10 meters from 0.5 chains to 1 chain.
NOW, If you want to focus on objects that are at position 2.0 (40 meters), then you only need to move the ocular lens ½ mm to position 0.5.

You have moved the focus from 20 meters to 40 meters with only ½ mm's of displacement of the lens.

If the object moved to 80 meters (4 chains), then the Objective lens moves to ¼ mm's.

"Ranging" farther and farther becomes harder and harder.

You might say "We ALL knew that DUUUUUH!", perhaps. But now you know WHY. 

Furthermore, what is true of absolutes is also true of relatives, and here comes an important conclusion: Small irregularities on the lens surfaces are nothing more than additional lenses in the optical path. So the lesser the quality of the lens, the HARDER UPON HARDER it will be to obtain a good rangefinding.

So, now that we understand how AO scopes work and why the marks get closer and closer as the distances get longer and longer, how does a sidewheel scope does it?
Picture
In modern Sidewheel scopes, most of the times, we have a much larger "saddle", the big block that holds together the front tube and the back tube, or in monoblock scopes, the large bulky housing in the middle.
Inside that "saddle", there is an axle and a cog wheel, something like this:
Picture
I said something LIKE THIS, not exactly like this! LOL!
Anyway, there is inside a small version of these sluice gate opening mechanism.

The sidewheel turns an axle that then turns another gear that spins the sleeve that has the pitched slots that hold the pegs that hold the lenses.

In sophisticated scopes, the complete arrangement will be substantially more complicated to remove slack and play and inaccuracies, they can use Spiral teeth and Hypoid alignments, springs and all sorts of devices to remove, as much as possible, the slack and the backlash.

Yes there are good scopes, but NONE are completely independent of slack and backlash.

If now I may recall your attention to the pitched slots in the barrel and the concept of the Programmer scope, it is not a large leap to understand that there are ways to cut the slots so that the sidewheel itself gets MORE resolution at certain points in the rotation than in others. You can use a bigger pitch for the "close" distances and progressively fine pitches for the longer distances.
IOR, March, S&B, Leupold, and others have used this concept. Problem when dealing with THIN tubes with slots cut into them made out of relatively light and easy to machine materials is that the TEMPERATURE CAN wreak havoc with all the maths that went into the design.
Picture
What we, shooters, have done is to "help" the sidewheel do its job. The advent of larger and larger sidewheels is a clear indication that DISTANCE along the sidewheel tape is more important to the shooter than angular displacement.

Some of us are working in offset center wheels, or logarithmic wheels that take into consideration the need for length on the tape as the needed angular displacement is reduced for small increases at long ranges.

There is always the possibility to leap forward by taking a step back. There is at least one manufacturer that offers a 720º revolution AO, and that offers very interesting possibilities as the distance progression can be spread over twice the angular distance, this creates, theoretically, twice the linear space to place all the distances. We'll be testing that theory soon.

So, to conclude:

A scope has mechanical and optical parts. They BOTH have to work well to give good results.
The mechanical part is currently the limitation to the performance. The machining of consistently high quality pieces with precision in the 0.0001" makes for expensive methods, setups, labour and materials. Glass has become inexpensive in relation to the mechanical parts. High quality glass is, and always will be, expensive, VERY few scopes use REALLY Top Tier Optics, those that do usually pair up with mechanisms that are commensurately precise, so expense comes back into the picture.

What will the future bring?
Probably a discontinuity. Video scopes are advancing at leaps and bounds. And once you get high quality glass with HD CCD's, the resolutions possible exceed human vision acuity with ease. And the jump from there to fully computerized, electronic scopesight/video/GPS device is relatively simple. 

Unless you are like me, a confirmed masochist that wants to "make do" with "squirrel guns" and "common scopes", perhaps you owe it to yourself to buy at least one REALLY GOOD scope. But . . .

that is up to you.

;-)

Keep well and shoot straight!
13 Comments

A Yankee Tune for the Walther LGU.- Second version

1/2/2015

8 Comments

 
I noted in my past blog entry, that there were two spring kits that could be used to "tune" the Walther LGU:
The first one was the Vortek Products kit for the HW97-25 mm's.
The second one was to use the Maccari spring for the LGV.

My good friend, the Pennsylvania Yankee was delighted with the Vortek option because there was no bounce, no buzz, no spring noise and no vibrations. All lofty and proper goals in a spring gun tune.

Sadly, for ME, the accuracy of the setup was less than stellar, especially in the 45 to 55 yard regions.

LGU's are accurate out of the box. NO questions about that. In the case of those rifles shipped to the US market, they are overpowered as regards WFTF rules.
And, at least in my hands with my rifle, the piston bounces. You can clearly feel the first strike, then the pellet exit and report, and then the gun jumps forward once more. Annoying, to the point that I could not see myself shooting 3 days, 150 shots, like that.

Herein lies an interesting difference: Some guns are not as accurate as others, but they are more "shootable" for a specific person and, in the end, this brings better results for each one of us. Or viceversa.

So, the guns need a tweak. It would be spectacular if the guns needed no tweaking and no tuning but let's face it, WE are ALL DIFFERENT!

So, having said that, and because for ME, the Vortek kit was not giving the results I wanted or expected at the extreme ranges, I started the process all over to establish the tune for the Maccari kit.

I will not go through the disassembly process, that is the same whatever kit you are using.

Once the gun is apart, you need to compare the springs.

In our case the Maccari spring for the LGV is substantially longer than the one used by Walther in the LGU, so I cut off 2 coils to bring the Maccari spring into the ballpark.

Then I started testing the power output. 14.2 ft-lbs with the Exacts AND with a definite piston bounce! Hmm . . . not good. The OEM setup had produced 13.1 ft-lbs for this same pellet, so we were on a good track, just a little away from what we were actually looking for. Pre compression, as measured from the initial point of contact to the effective closing of the rifle, was 35 mm's. 5 mm's short of the OEM setup.

Picture
So I cut 1¼ coils off, added a tight fitting composite top-hat and tested.
Picture
How tight? you ask.

Well, if I pull the spring out the piston comes with it. I have to pull SLOWLY and allow air to get in between the TopHat and the piston to allow them to part.
Precompression now was 25 mm's and power output was 13.5 ft-lbs. Interesting! 1¼ coils off was a somewhat brave and drastic measure, how can the rifle STILL be generating this much power? Of course the tophat acted as a spacer and added weight to the piston, but the important thing: No more piston bounce! Snug as a bug!

So, off came 1 3/4 coils more. And then tested:
With JSB 8.44's.- 11.4 ft-lbs.
With AA 8.44's.- 11.2 ft-lbs (interesting because the relationship between AA's and JSB's is usually reversed).
With JSB Express 7.9's.- 11.74 ft-lbs.

That should do it, with extreme spreads of 5 fps the maximum power in a string of 10 shots was 11.80 ft-lbs. So, no worries about the chrony on the lanes.
Picture
The amazing part is that precompression now was down to 10 mm's, the gun could be put together and taken apart with simple hand pressure. NO spring compressor required.
Sure four hands are better than two because you need to align the small pin holes and hit on the pins to assemble or on the punch to disassemble, but having a gun that actually needs no spring compressor is an interesting experience in itself.

So, now that we are "legal" even with light pellets, and that we know that the barrel likes somewhat "fatter" pellets, we need to start the search for accuracy all over again.

The shot cycle is very nice. Recoil is straight fore-aft, no more jumping up and kicking like a mule. After the shot, you can see the target and see how off you were on your hold. Still cannot see the pellet travelling nor the impact the moment it occurs, but a lot more steady than any other airgun without a sled system.

Cocking effort was also substantially reduced, not to the 20#, but almost; it is at 25# a great improvement over the 32# of the OEM setup.

Accuracy at short and medium range (32 meters) is as good as with the OEM setup and I think that the "captive" guide has a LOT to do about that. I'll have to wait for longer range testing till next week.

As an aside, I've been informed that AA has ALSO stepped over to the "captive" guide field with the latest TX-200's. Theirs is a pressure fit, not a truly captive guide-in-a-groove kind of thing, but users tell me that it takes quite a lot of fiddling to get that guide out.

I was told Vortek Products already has all the measurements needed to make a kit that will have all the good Vortek characteristics, plus will add the "captive" guide principle. Let's hope we can see that kit soon!

In the meantime, have fun!
8 Comments

    Hector Medina

    2012 US National WFTF Spring Piston Champion
    2012 WFTF Spring Piston Grand Prix Winner
    2013 World's WFTF Spring Piston 7th place
    2014 Texas State WFTF Piston Champion
    2014 World's WFTF Spring Piston 5th place.
    2015 Maine State Champion WFTF Piston
    2015 Massachusetts State Champion WFTF Piston
    2015 New York State Champion WFTF Piston
    2015 US National WFTF Piston 2nd Place
    2016 Canadian WFTF Piston Champion
    2016 Pyramyd Air Cup WFTF Piston 1st Place
    2017 US Nationals Open Piston 3rd Place
    2018 WFTC's Member of Team USA Champion Springers
    2018 WFTC's 4th place Veteran Springer
    2020 Puerto Rico GP Piston First Place
    2020 NC State Championships 1st Place Piston
    2022 Maryland State Champion WFTF 
    2022 WFTC's Italy Member of TEAM USA 2nd place Springers
    2022 WFTC's Italy
    2nd Place Veteran Springers

    Archives

    August 2022
    May 2022
    April 2022
    February 2022
    August 2021
    July 2021
    June 2021
    May 2021
    April 2021
    March 2021
    February 2021
    October 2020
    September 2020
    August 2020
    July 2020
    June 2020
    May 2020
    April 2020
    March 2020
    February 2020
    January 2020
    December 2019
    November 2019
    September 2019
    August 2019
    July 2019
    May 2019
    April 2019
    January 2019
    December 2018
    November 2018
    October 2018
    September 2018
    August 2018
    June 2018
    May 2018
    April 2018
    March 2018
    February 2018
    January 2018
    December 2017
    November 2017
    October 2017
    September 2017
    March 2017
    December 2016
    October 2016
    September 2016
    July 2016
    June 2016
    March 2016
    January 2016
    December 2015
    November 2015
    October 2015
    September 2015
    August 2015
    June 2015
    May 2015
    April 2015
    March 2015
    February 2015
    January 2015
    December 2014
    November 2014
    October 2014
    August 2014
    July 2014
    June 2014
    May 2014
    March 2014
    February 2014
    December 2013
    November 2013
    October 2013
    September 2013

    Categories

    All
    Events
    Gear
    Hunting
    Tests

    RSS Feed

Proudly powered by Weebly