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The Stormrider Magazine.- Addressing some complaints

11/18/2018

7 Comments

 

The main complaints of some shooters

It has been called to my attention that some users have complained about the loading of the Stormrider Magazine:

https://www.airgundepot.com/diana-stormrider-magazine.html

and

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Diana_Stormrider_177_cal_Magazine/7897

To put things in perspective, there are  more than 2,000 Stormriders now in circulation worldwide. Getting 8 complaints out of 4,000 magazines isn't bad, but DIANA wants to address the main issue and come clean with a rather silly aspect of it:

WE (DIANA) are the ones to blame.

¿WHY?

Well, because we gave the instructions in the manual!

Yes we followed the designer's / maker's method, but we should have been smarter than that and printed the manual with an improved method.

When I first started loading the Stormrider magazines I didn't even look at the manual, the process was so simple to "guess" that I made the mistake of not checking what the manual said and intervene.

It was only when some friends pointed out the "clumsiness" of having to load the pellets into the magazines backwards (Skirt first), that I asked ¿WHAAAAAAAT?
And went searching for the manual (packed in the OEM boxes in the warehouse) to see for myself.

So, first of all, apologies to all our customers. There IS a BETTER method that is not the one that was printed in the manual. We/I should have identified that, but it simply slipped under the radar.

I cannot post a video so I will post here a step by step procedure, please be patient and try following it with magazine and pellets in hand.

An Improved method of loading:

First you set the magazines you want to load and the pellets you want to use on a flat surface:
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​You locate the transparent plate UPWARDS:
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​Now you turn the transparent plate COUNTERCLOCKWISE to its stop (here we are JUST starting the rotation):
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So that the drum inside the magazine leaves open the cavity of the LAST pellet you want to shoot:
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​Then, holding the magazine plates (that will be under tension) you flip over the whole magazine and insert that pellet, and ONLY THAT PELLET, BACKWARDS:
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This acts as a atop for the drum and, now, you flip over again the magazine, and rotate the transparent plate to the cavity of the FIRST pellet you want to shoot:
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You can now drop the FIRST pellet to be fired FORWARDS:
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​Rotate the transparent plate to the next empty chamber and then load the second pellet:
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And so on until you have filled the magazine:
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​It really is much simpler to do than to explain.
So, there you have it, an improved loading procedure for the Stormrider magazines where you can load the pellets forwards.
The ONLY tricky part is holding the plates in tension while you flip the magazine to insert the LAST pellet to be fired, FIRST, AND BACKWARDS.
From that point on all is smooth sailing.

Again, I want to apologize on behalf of DIANA and myself.

Hope this procedure will be useful, especially to those shooters that load HP's or other hybrid pellets (like the Baracuda Hunter Extreme of this pictorial) where loading them forwards is a great advantage.​

Keep well and shoot straight!



​HM
7 Comments
RidgeRunner
11/20/2018 12:13:04

Hey Hector,

I am going off subject to the ZR-1 mount. I know you have been doing some special tests with it and I am just about sold on them. In fact I will be buying one soon. I do have one concern though. With powerful sproingers you have a very pronounced forward recoil. How does this mount deal with that? To the best of my knowledge there are no springs or cushions to help reduce this forward shock.

What are the tolerances like for the guide rods in the mount? Are they tight enough that a couple of springs could be put on the front section of the rods?

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Hector Medina
11/20/2018 15:05:01

You only needed to Google:

"www.ctcustomairguns.com ZR Mounts", and you would have gotten these three hits:

https://www.ctcustomairguns.com/hectors-airgun-blog/a-high-speed-analysis-of-the-way-the-zr-mounts-work

https://www.ctcustomairguns.com/hectors-airgun-blog/march-14th-2016

https://www.ctcustomairguns.com/hectors-airgun-blog/nightvision-riflescope-for-springers

as you can read there, the ZR mounts work by "Floating" the scope between the time the shot cycle starts and ends.

As such, there is NO problem with mounts of the second generation and younger; and NO NEED for additional springs, buffers, ORings, etc.

I don't think anyone has still a 1st generation ZR Mounts, so as long as you see that they have 1" to 30 mm's adaptors you can mount it on ANY gun and use ANY scope (as long as the scope is straight and is of reasonable quality).

If you want REAL accuracy and repeatability over 1,000's of shots, then you need to get an "Accurized" mount that costs $140 + Sh & Ins.

HTH




HM

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RidgeRunner
11/21/2018 05:52:15

Thanks Hector. Yes, I had read these blogs before, but I had a nagging in the back of my head that I just had to deal with. I have an uber magnum sproinger that has caused a one piece mount with stop pin to move. I was thinking of the ZR mount and reinstalling the screw down scope stop.

I have a decent little Hawke scope that would be great on this sproinger, but I did not want to sacrifice it to the recoil. Eventually this beast will be tamed down some, but until then I still enjoy shooting it on occasion.

A.O. Martinez
3/8/2019 09:34:34

[quote] ... an "Accurized" mount that costs $140 + Sh & Ins. [unquote]. The cost of $140 ... does that include the expense of an unmodified mount? Meaning $140 for the OEM mount and required modifications

Hector Medina
3/8/2019 12:59:52

Yes, Alex

That price includes the mount itself.

HTH





HM

NOTE.- There are no mounts currently available at the dealers shelves.
I have only ONE that can be put on offer.

Next shipment will be in about a month's time.

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Anuj
10/20/2020 14:21:37

Hello- I am using the same process and order to fill Pellets in magazine, but pellets does not go in tonxhmaber fully-it stucks always-what could be the issue here-its just 5 days old gun

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Hector Medina
10/20/2020 14:24:17

Exactly what pellets are you using?

SOME pellets in certain calibers may be too long for the magazine.

Please keep me posted.





HM

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